원문 캡처 · lore.kernel.org
원문 캡처 · lore.kernel.org

리누스 토르발스(Linus Torvalds)는 리눅스 커널 제출물에 AI 같은 도구의 사용을 일괄 금지하는 규칙을 만들지 말아야 한다고 주장했다. 중요한 기준은 어떤 도구를 썼는지가 아니라 제출자가 자신이 하는 일을 이해하고 최선을 다하는지라는 입장이다.

토르발스는 AI 사용을 금지하는 논리가 컴파일러나 편집기 사용을 금지하는 주장과 다를 바 없다고 반박했다. 코드를 어셈블리어로 작성해 기계의 동작을 이해했음을 보이고, 백스페이스로 입력 실수를 감출 수 없도록 편집기 없이 커밋 메시지를 쓰라고 요구하는 규칙도 터무니없다는 비유를 들었다.

그는 자신이 기대하는 것은 기여자가 최선을 다하고 작업 내용을 이해하는 것이며, 그 이해 여부는 사용한 도구와는 거의 관계가 없다고 말했다. 새롭고 흥미로운 도구를 피하지 않는 사람이 자신이 존중하고 지적인 사람이라고 여기는 이들이라고 덧붙였다.

이 발언은 ‘Assisted-by’ 표기를 문서에서 제거하자는 패치와 관련한 리눅스 커널 메일링 리스트 논의에서 나왔다.

부록: 원문 예시

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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>, Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>,
 "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
 Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
 corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
 rdunlap@infradead.org, federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it,
 apw@canonical.com, joe@perches.com, workflows@vger.kernel.org,
 linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
 Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
 Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
 Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
 David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
 Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
 Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
 "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
 "Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 13:45:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whTs09_ozN+e09GU68N1wPP56MUzDjrg9rnKxQUa0A_4Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261013201628.GO4214@killaraus.ideasonboard.com>

On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 at 13:16, Laurent Pinchart
<laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
>
> What this is about is setting our expectations, telling what we want and
> what we don't want.

No. What you are about is something entirely different. It has nothing
to do with "expectations", and it has everything to do with your
hangups.

I don't understand this whole idiotic concept of "don't use AI for X".

Here's a new rule just for you: don't use compilers for any of your
kernel submissions.

Because if you can't show that you really understand what the machine
is actually doing by writing your code in assembler, then I don't want
to see your code contribution. You clearly aren't competent if you
can't write it that way.

And btw, you had better not use an editor to write that commit message either.

Because I need you to show me that you can actually write a good
commit message without using tools that make it easy to backspace and
hide the mistakes you made while typing.

Ok?

Because otherwise those tool-assisted commits of yours clearly aren't
showing that you know what you are doing.

Do you not see how UTTERLY STUPID those kinds of rules would be?

So no. We're not going to make stupid rules that say "you can't use
tools for X".

The kind of expectations *I* have is that people do their best and I
expect people to understand what they are doing.

But that understanding has very little to do with what tools they use.

And quite honestly, in my experience, the people I respect and call
intelligent are not the ones that shy away from using new and
interesting tools.

 Linus
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-09 8:31 [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-09 10:09 ` Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 10:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 10:24 ` Greg KH
2026-10-09 15:20 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-10-11 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-10-12 15:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 11:19 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:50 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:24 ` Ricardo B. Marlière (SUSE)
2026-10-13 12:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 17:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:04 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-13 13:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:37 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:52 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 14:54 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:58 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 17:12 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 17:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 19:25 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 20:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 20:45 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2026-10-14 13:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-14 18:47 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-15 23:14 ` Jeremy Dean Clifton
2026-10-13 15:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 16:58 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 17:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-14 3:23 ` Theodore Tso
2026-10-14 11:23 ` Mark Brown
2026-10-14 13:08 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-14 13:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-14 14:15 ` Mark Brown
2026-10-13 4:24 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 5:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-13 6:18 ` Greg KH
2026-10-13 8:25 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 12:28 ` [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by reference Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:03 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:20 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 15:18 ` Mark Brown
2026-10-13 17:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 20:01 ` Shuah Khan
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